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Why would Jack say that he entered the basement of the jail via the
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Raymond
2012-01-05 05:16:05 UTC
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Why would Jack say that he entered the basement of the jail via the
ramp if he entered the building by another entrance? What difference
would it make? Everyone knows that he was in the basement and shot
Oswald. Because , he would have needed inside police help and he
didn't want to involve his friends in the police department.

There is no genuine evidence , other than Jack's own story, that
proves that he entered via the ramp. If there is, I sure would like to
see it. Even the Warren Wizards doubted the tall tale. After claiming
that Ruby entered the basement by way of the ramp, the Report adds:
" ..... Although the sum of the evidence tends to support Ruby's claim
that he entered the Main Street ramp, there is other evidence not
consistent with Ruby's story. If Ruby entered by any other means, he
would have had to pass through the Police and Courts Building, and
then secondly through one of the five doors into the basement, all of
which, according to the testimony of police officers were secured .
The testimony was not completely positive about one of the doors. "
(Report, pp. 221-222)

Both the police and the Commission were concerned about the one
door. But they were careful not to investigate the issue to a positive
conclusion because it would almost surely implicate one or more
members of the Dallas police force.

The door in question was near the passenger elevator that opens
into the Municipal Building.

"Despite the thoroughness with which the search was conducted,
there still existed one and perhaps two weak points in controlling
access to the garage. Testimony did not resolve positively whether or
not the stairway door near the public elevators was locked both from
the inside and outside as was necessary to secure it effectively. "
(Report. p. 212)

In his book Conspiracy, Anthony Summers deals with this particular
door:
"In 1979, the Assassination Committee rejected the old story that
Ruby got in down the ramp from the street. Following its own research
on the spot, it plumped instead for a brand-new hypothesis. The
Committee found that Ruby could have got into the basement by slipping
down an alleyway at the side of the police station. In the middle of
the alley is a door opening onto the ground floor of the building
which houses the police station, and from there Ruby could have
reached the basement. It was a far less conspicuous means of entry
than the ramp route and therefore a better choice for a premeditated
approach. The Committee had to consider whether, if he indeed took
this route. Ruby would have been stopped by a locked internal door
leading to the basement. On this point, it once again encountered the
ubiquitous voice of Sergeant (Patrick) Dean. It turned out that he had
vacillated in his statements as to whether the door could be opened
from the outside. On one occasion he had not answered the question and
then said he had been assured by the maintenance man that the door was
secure from both sides. Two maintenance men and a porter said the
opposite. They asserted it could be opened without using a key, from
the direction Ruby would have entered."
( p. 469, 1991 edition)

The Warren Report provides us with a diagram of the basement of the
Dallas Police Building (CE 2179), which shows the three elevators
opening into the garage, and the steps, by the elevators that Ruby
would have used to gain entrance to the basement. They do not however
provide a floor plan of the main floor that would show the alleyway
door that Jack surely used to enter the building.

The truth about the door can be seen by anyone who visits the
corner of Pearl and Main streets, in Dallas. Standing in front of the
former Western Union Office Building, the door to the Municipal
Building can be seen . It is less than a child's stone throw away from
the door to the Western Union.

Additonally, there are over 20 windows on the side of the Municipal
Building that could have been used to signal Jack that the transfer
was in progress.

I wrote an article in PROBE. March-April, 1999 titled Ruby and the
Ramp. I included pictures of the scene showing the door to the side of
the police building and the front of the Western Union Office. Perhaps
Probe would provide a copy of the article.

A recent book, No More Silence, written by Larry A . Sneed,
provides more information on the subject. I will leave that to
interested people to read , but it is convincing evidence that Ruby
entered by way of the door I described.

The Sneed witnesses include police officers, deputy sheriffs, and
government officials.

Before anyone begins to write negative posts about the contents of
this effort, make sure that you have exhausted your own research. Few
still believe that Jack entered via the ramp.

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Raymond
2012-01-05 15:33:29 UTC
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Post by Raymond
Why would Jack say that he entered the basement of the jail via the
ramp if he entered the building by another entrance? What difference
would it make? Everyone knows that he was in the basement and shot
Oswald. Because , he would have needed inside police help and he
didn't want to involve his friends in the police department.
   There is no genuine evidence , other than Jack's own story, that
proves that he entered via the ramp. If there is, I sure would like to
see it. Even the Warren Wizards doubted the tall tale. After claiming
" ..... Although the sum of the evidence tends to support Ruby's claim
that he entered the Main Street ramp, there is other evidence not
consistent with Ruby's story. If Ruby entered by any other means, he
would have had to pass through the Police and Courts Building, and
then secondly through one of the five doors into the basement, all of
which, according to the testimony of police officers were secured .
The testimony was not completely positive about one of the doors. "
(Report, pp. 221-222)
   Both the police and the Commission were concerned about the one
door. But they were careful not to investigate the issue to a positive
conclusion because it would almost surely implicate one or more
members of the Dallas police force.
   The door in question was near the passenger elevator that opens
into the Municipal Building.
    "Despite the thoroughness with which the search was conducted,
there still existed one and perhaps two weak points in controlling
access to the garage. Testimony did not resolve positively whether or
not the stairway door near the public elevators  was locked both from
the inside and outside as was necessary to secure it effectively. "
(Report. p. 212)
   In his book Conspiracy, Anthony Summers deals with this particular
   "In 1979, the Assassination Committee rejected the old story that
Ruby got in down the ramp from the street. Following its own research
on the spot, it plumped instead for a brand-new hypothesis. The
Committee found that Ruby could have got into the basement by slipping
down an alleyway at the side of the police station. In the middle of
the alley is a door opening onto the ground floor of the building
which houses the police station, and from there Ruby could have
reached the basement. It was a far less conspicuous means of entry
than the ramp route and therefore a better choice for a premeditated
approach. The Committee had to consider whether, if he indeed took
this route. Ruby would have been stopped by a locked internal door
leading to the basement. On this point, it once again encountered the
ubiquitous voice of Sergeant (Patrick) Dean. It turned out that he had
vacillated in his statements as to whether the door could be opened
from the outside. On one occasion he had not answered the question and
then said he had been assured by the maintenance man that the door was
secure from both sides. Two maintenance men and a porter said the
opposite. They asserted it could be opened without using a key, from
the direction Ruby would have entered."
( p. 469, 1991 edition)
   The Warren Report provides us with a diagram of the basement of the
Dallas Police Building (CE 2179), which shows the three elevators
opening into the garage, and the steps, by the elevators that Ruby
would have used to gain entrance to the basement. They do not however
provide a floor plan of the main floor that would show the alleyway
door that Jack surely used to enter the building.
   The truth about the door can be seen by anyone who visits the
corner of Pearl and Main streets, in Dallas. Standing in front of the
former Western Union Office Building, the door to the Municipal
Building can be seen . It is less than a child's stone throw away from
the door to the Western Union.
Additonally, there are over 20 windows on the side of the Municipal
Building that could have been used to signal Jack that the transfer
was in progress.
   I wrote an article in PROBE. March-April, 1999 titled Ruby and the
Ramp. I included pictures of the scene showing the door to the side of
the police building and the front of the Western Union Office. Perhaps
Probe would provide a copy of the article.
SEE Western Union where Jack mailed the MO and the door where he
entered the police station (see arrow)

http://www2.snapfish.com/snapfish/viewsharedphoto/p=986171234901078260/l=443172864/g=161362164/otsc=SHR/otsi=SPIClink
Post by Raymond
   A recent book, No More Silence, written by Larry A . Sneed,
provides more information on the subject. I will leave that to
interested people to read , but it is convincing evidence that Ruby
entered by way of the door I described.
  The Sneed witnesses include police officers, deputy sheriffs, and
government officials.
   Before anyone begins to write negative posts about the contents of
this effort, make sure that you have exhausted your own research. Few
still believe that Jack entered via the ramp.
NO eMails Please
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