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Raymond
2012-01-05 09:12:15 UTC
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Assassinations of people who threaten the establishment:

The release of hundreds of pages of National Transportation Safety
Board documents still leaves many unanswered questions about what
happened to the flight that killed Paul Wellstone and seven others
last October. It will likely be months before the NTSB issues a final
report on the crash. Although no clear cause has yet emerged, several
areas stand out as possible factors. They include weather, pilot
incompetence and problems with navigational equipment at the Eveleth-
Virginia Airport.

St. Paul, Minn. — What's been made public about the Wellstone plane
crash leaves aviation experts not associated with the inquiry hard
pressed to understand what went wrong the morning of Oct. 25.

Why, after an otherwise uneventful flight to northeastern Minnesota,
did the plane carrying when Sen. Wellstone, his wife, daughter, three
campaign aides, and two pilots crash just short of the Eveleth-
Virginia Municipal Airport? "It seems almost like one of those
unsolved mysteries," says Jeff Johnson, an assistant professor of
aviation at St. Cloud State University. He's also a pilot who's logged
nearly 3,000 hours, including several hundred flying planes similar to
the one in which Paul Wellstone and the others died. "There's things I
ask myself like, my goodness, this is a very durable airplane, you
have an experienced captain aboard that airplane, it went down
suddenly like this at low altitude, no distress call and a call was
made to the Eveleth airport reporting that they were "X" miles from
the airport and it happened that fast," says Johnson.

Cont'd

Wellstone's Death All Adds Up - 2+2=5

"The sound really went down; not like they shut it off, not like the
engines quit."
--- John Kaukola-witness to crash

"It's hard for anybody who's flown before to understand that a pilot
would let their airplane get that slow."
--- Jason Rivera, pilot

What is EMP
Electro Magnetic Pulse is a burst of electromagnetic radiation from an
explosion or a suddenly fluctuating magnetic field. The general idea
of an EMP is that it wreaks havoc on electronics, but leaves other
physical structures mostly untouched.

An electromagnetic gun is a type of weapon similar to a standard
firearm or other gun, except it uses electricity and magnetism to
create the force that propels the projectile from the gun. Standard
firearms use ammunition that includes gunpowder, which is used to
create a small explosion that creates the force to fire the bullet
from the casing. An electromagnetic gun uses an electric current to
generate a magnetic field, which creates the force necessary to propel
a bullet or other projectile out from the gun at incredibly high
speeds.

Also called a rail gun or EM gun, an electromagnetic gun is typically
quite large in scale, due to the energy requirements needed for such a
weapon. While efforts have been made to scale down these weapons,
models as of 2011 are more like canons or mounted artillery weapons.
An electromagnetic gun has a pair of electrically conductive rails,
hence the alternate name, held near each other but not touching. A
power source is then connected to these rails, typically a capacitor
or other electrical power supply.

Terrorists could carry them in airplanes or detonate them in cars, and
they would disable electrical infrastructure for miles around them.
What’s shocking is that some of these devices can be assembled with
plans off the Internet.

I can't imagine how a counter-terrorism official would deal with this
threat, but am glad it’s still hypothetical for the most part and no
one has carried out such an attack.

--- miriam98

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-emp.htm

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2003/03/03_zdechlikm_wellstone/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/1984/ERD.htm

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/20736.php

http://www.rense.com/general15/gates.htm

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/aircrashes.html

http://www.voxfux.com/archives/00000039.htm

The Early Emperors
http://www.roman-empire.net/emperors/emp-index.html

The National Transportation Safety Board, NTSB, and its predecessor
federal agencies, have a long, sorry history of covering up foul play
involved in some aircraft disasters.

About 1965 a commercial plane was enroute to Chicago. Just offshore of
the Windy City, the plane blew up and fell in relatively shallow water
of Lake Michigan. Early news accounts in some of the newspapers said a
bomb was suspected. Later editions, like with political
assassinations, cleaned up the messy details. Further stories
dismissed the crash as merely some kind of "accident".

One night a diver went down to the wreckage and apparently stole one
of the "black boxes", that records various parameters of the plane's
operations or records voices in the cockpit. Also removed were
apparently certain items in the wreckage. What was that all about?
According to some news reports, it was some kind of an unsolved
mystery. Left out of reports in the monopoly press were that one of
the passengers was a disgruntled top official of the American CIA. He
was on the way to meeting a prominent journalist in Chicago. He was
going to turn over documents showing that there had been a high-level
cabal implicated in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in
1963. [Not the only time key witnesses were snuffed out on the way to
meet with reporters. Example, the Karen Silkwood case. AND, see our
details in an earlier story, about Reporters and Assassins
(they sleep together)

The electrical system of the plane had been sabotaged. THEIR own
report showing the bodies of Mrs. E.Howard Hunt and her group had an
unexplained high-level of cyanide.

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/aircrashes.html
Raymond
2012-01-05 15:32:38 UTC
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Post by Raymond
The release of hundreds of pages of National Transportation Safety
Board documents still leaves many unanswered questions about what
happened to the flight that killed Paul Wellstone and seven others
last October. It will likely be months before the NTSB issues a final
report on the crash. Although no clear cause has yet emerged, several
areas stand out as possible factors. They include weather, pilot
incompetence and problems with navigational equipment at the Eveleth-
Virginia Airport.
St. Paul, Minn. — What's been made public about the Wellstone plane
crash leaves aviation experts not associated with the inquiry hard
pressed to understand what went wrong the morning of Oct. 25.
Why, after an otherwise uneventful flight to northeastern Minnesota,
did the plane carrying when Sen. Wellstone, his wife, daughter, three
campaign aides, and two pilots crash just short of the Eveleth-
Virginia Municipal Airport? "It seems almost like one of those
unsolved mysteries," says Jeff Johnson, an assistant professor of
aviation at St. Cloud State University. He's also a pilot who's logged
nearly 3,000 hours, including several hundred flying planes similar to
the one in which Paul Wellstone and the others died. "There's things I
ask myself like, my goodness, this is a very durable airplane, you
have an experienced captain aboard that airplane, it went down
suddenly like this at low altitude, no distress call and a call was
made to the Eveleth airport reporting that they were "X" miles from
the airport and it happened that fast," says Johnson.
Cont'd
Wellstone's Death All Adds Up - 2+2=5
"The sound really went down; not like they shut it off, not like the
engines quit."
--- John Kaukola-witness to crash
 "It's hard for anybody who's flown before to understand that a pilot
would let their airplane get that slow."
--- Jason Rivera, pilot
What is EMP
Electro Magnetic Pulse is a burst of electromagnetic radiation from an
explosion or a suddenly fluctuating magnetic field. The general idea
of an EMP is that it wreaks havoc on electronics, but leaves other
physical structures mostly untouched.
An electromagnetic gun is a type of weapon similar to a standard
firearm or other gun, except it uses electricity and magnetism to
create the force that propels the projectile from the gun. Standard
firearms use ammunition that includes gunpowder, which is used to
create a small explosion that creates the force to fire the bullet
from the casing. An electromagnetic gun uses an electric current to
generate a magnetic field, which creates the force necessary to propel
a bullet or other projectile out from the gun at incredibly high
speeds.
Also called a rail gun or EM gun, an electromagnetic gun is typically
quite large in scale, due to the energy requirements needed for such a
weapon. While efforts have been made to scale down these weapons,
models as of 2011 are more like canons or mounted artillery weapons.
An electromagnetic gun has a pair of electrically conductive rails,
hence the alternate name, held near each other but not touching. A
power source is then connected to these rails, typically a capacitor
or other electrical power supply.
Terrorists could carry them in airplanes or detonate them in cars, and
they would disable electrical infrastructure for miles around them.
What’s shocking is that some of these devices can be assembled with
plans off the Internet.
I can't imagine how a counter-terrorism official would deal with this
threat, but am glad it’s still hypothetical for the most part and no
one has carried out such an attack.
--- miriam98
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-emp.htm
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2003/03/03_zdechlikm_w...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/1984/ERD.htm
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/20736.php
http://www.rense.com/general15/gates.htm
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/aircrashes.html
http://www.voxfux.com/archives/00000039.htm
The Early Emperors
http://www.roman-empire.net/emperors/emp-index.html
The National Transportation Safety Board, NTSB, and its predecessor
federal agencies, have a long, sorry history of covering up foul play
involved in some aircraft disasters.
About 1965 a commercial plane was enroute to Chicago. Just offshore of
the Windy City, the plane blew up and fell in relatively shallow water
of Lake Michigan. Early news accounts in some of the newspapers said a
bomb was suspected. Later editions, like with political
assassinations, cleaned up the messy details. Further stories
dismissed the crash as merely some kind of "accident".
One night a diver went down to the wreckage and apparently stole one
of the "black boxes", that records various parameters of the plane's
operations or records voices in the cockpit. Also removed were
apparently certain items in the wreckage. What was that all about?
According to some news reports, it was some kind of an unsolved
mystery. Left out of reports in the monopoly press were that one of
the passengers was a disgruntled top official of the American CIA. He
was on the way to meeting a prominent journalist in Chicago. He was
going to turn over documents showing that there had been a high-level
cabal implicated in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in
1963. [Not the only time key witnesses were snuffed out on the way to
meet with reporters. Example, the Karen Silkwood case. AND, see our
details in an earlier story, about Reporters and Assassins
(they sleep together)
The electrical system of the plane had been sabotaged.   THEIR own
report showing the bodies of Mrs. E.Howard Hunt and her group had an
unexplained high-level of cyanide.
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/aircrashes.html
The Strange Death of Dorothy Hunt
A large sum of money (between $10,000 and $100,000) was found amid
the wreckage in the possession of Mrs. Hunt

Special for Fair Play
By Lalo J. Gastriani

Was Dorothy Wetzel Hunt, the late wife of convicted Watergate
conspirator, E. Howard Hunt, murdered? Was the plane on which she was
traveling--along with other key Watergate characters--sabotaged? If
so, why? And by whom?

These questions have troubled researchers for more than twenty years.
Along with the unanswered questions about Hunt and how he relates to
the forces that brought down the Nixon presidency, also too is the
question about what more the Hunts knew about Nixon; what it was that
made Nixon so paranoid; that made him so willing to come up with hush
money ("...a million dollars? we could get that."). Could it be that
Hunt and/or Nixon were complicit in the death of JFK?

The Crash
It was at 2:29 PM on Friday, December 8, 1972, during the height of
the Watergate scandal that United Airlines flight 553 crashed just
outside of Chicago during a landing approach to Midway Airport.
Initial reports indicated that the plane had some sort of engine
trouble when it descended from the clouds. But the odd thing about
this crash is what happened after the plane went down. Witnesses
living in the working-class neighborhood in which the plane crashed
said that moments after impact, a battalion of plainclothes operatives
in unmarked cars parked on side streets pounced on the crash-site
[High Treason 2 (1992, Carroll and Graf); Harrison Livingston; p426] .
These so-called 'FBI types' took control of the scene and immediately
began sifting through the wreckage looking for something. At least one
survivor recognized a "rescue worker"--clad in overalls sifting
through wreckage--as an operative of the CIA [op. cit.; p428]
Nixon whitehouse asserts control of Investigation

One day after the crash, the White House head of Nixon's "plumber's"
outfit--Egil Krogh, Jr.-- was made undersecretary of transportation, a
position that put him in a direct position to oversee the National
Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Agency which are
both authorized by law to investigate airline crashes. Krogh would
later be convicted of complicity in the break-in of Daniel Ellsberg's
Psychiatrist's office along with Hunt, Liddy and a small cast of CIA-
trained and retained Cuban black-bag specialists.

About a month after Krogh's new assignment, Nixon's appointments
secretary, Dwight Chapin, was made an executive in the Chicago office
of United Airlines [op. cit.; p429], where he threatened the media to
steer clear of speculation about sabotage in the crash. On December
19th--eleven days after the crash--Nixon appointed ex-CIA officer,
Alexander Butterfield, as head of the FAA. Students of Watergate will
remember Butterfield as the Whitehouse official who supervised Nixon's
secret taping system and who exposed the existence of the infamous
tapes that ultimately would force Nixon to resign.

Ostensibly traveling with Mrs. Hunt on flight 553 was CBS news
corespondent Michelle Clark who, rumor had it, had learned from her
sources that the Hunts were about to spill the proverbial beans
regarding the Nixon whitehouse and its involvement in the Watergate
burglary; Clark also died in the crash.

A large sum of money (between $10,000 and $100,000) was found amid the
wreckage in the possession of Mrs. Hunt. It was during this time that
Dorothy Hunt was traveling around the country paying off operatives
and witnesses in the Watergate operation with money her husband had
extorted from Nixon via his counsel, John Dean. Hunt had threatened
Nixon and Dean with exposing the nature of all the sordid deeds he had
done.

Could it be that the fuel for Hunt's blackmail of the president had
little to do with the so-called "third-rate burglary" of the
Democratic headquarters? Could it have had more to do with the fate of
John F. Kennedy and of Nixon's awareness of who was really behind the
planning and deployment of his demise? In the Watergate tapes, Nixon
displays a malignant paranoia to his chief-of-staff, H. R. Haldeman,
concerning E. Howard Hunt and the Bay of Pigs operation. He decides to
use this paranoia to force the CIA to help cover up the Watergate
affair:

"...just say (unintelligible) very bad to have this fellow Hunt, ah,
he knows too damned much, if he was involved -- you happen to know
that? If it gets out that this is all involved, the Cuba thing, it
would be a fiasco. It would make the CIA look bad, it's going to make
Hunt look bad, and it is likely to blow the whole Bay of Pigs thing
which we think would be very unfortunate - both for the CIA and for
the country..."


In his memoir, The Ends of Power (1978), Haldeman claims that all the
references in the tapes to "The Bay of Pigs thing", were coded
references by Nixon:

In those Nixon references to the Bay of Pigs [in the White House
tapes] he [Nixon] was actually referring to the Kennedy
assassination...After Kennedy was killed, the CIA launched a fantastic
cover-up...The CIA literally erased any connection between Kennedy's
assassination and the CIA...in fact, Counter Intelligence Chief James
Angleton of the CIA called Bill Sullivan of the FBI (Number Three man
under J. Edgar Hoover, who later died of a gunshot would) and
rehearsed the questions and answers they would give to the Warren
Commission investigators."

In The Haldeman Diaries (1994), editor Stephen Ambrose wrote that
Haldeman, in the latter years of his life, attributed the above
revelations to his ghost writer, Joseph Di Mona; by 1990, Haldeman was
repudiating the entire book. One must remember that from the time
Nixon fired Haldeman (1973) until December 1978, the two men were not
on speaking terms; it was during this time--coincident with his prison
term--that Haldeman released his book.

Hunt and Lansdale in Dealey Plaza
Some JFK assassination researchers have long speculated that E. Howard
Hunt holds the keys to what really happened to Kennedy. There has long
been conjecture about the whereabouts of Hunt on November 22, 1963.
Some have posited that Hunt and his merry band of operatives were in
Dealey Plaza that day providing the logistic backup and diversion that
enabled the true assassins to escape under the cover of the ensuing
pandemonium. Some have even gone as far to say that Hunt--in a clever
disguise--was one of the mysterious "Tramps" arrested in the railroad
yards behind Dealey Plaza shortly after the last shots were fired at
the Kennedy motorcade.
In the latest issue of Steam Shovel Press [Steam Shovel Press #11,
p13] in an article by photo analyst Jack White, L. Fletcher Prouty
describes one of several known Tramp photos. This particular photo
shows the tramps being escorted along a service entrance to the TSBD
wall comprised of two high chain-link gates with large diamond-shapes
in the center of each [Photo designated as "P1" in Weberman and
Canfield's Coup D' Etat in America (1992, Quick Trading)]. The tramps
are facing the camera and a man is seen walking in the opposite
direction, back to the camera. Prouty believes that the man walking
away from the camera is Edward Lansdale. Lansdale, a planner with the
Air Force Directorate and then the CIA-affiliated Office of Special
Operations, worked closely with E. Howard Hunt. Lansdale's specialty,
according to Prouty, who claims to have also worked closely with him,
was staging real-time covers, diversions, and the general "smoke
screens" under which assassinations took place. When asked to explain,
Prouty alleges that it was Lansdale's job to provide "actors", and
"screenplays" for certain black operations deployed by the covert
operatives.

One must remember that E. Howard Hunt is a prolific author, having
written over seventy books, virtually all of them spy novels; novels
that some have speculated were designed by Hunt's superiors at the CIA
to be Cold War disinformation tools. Hunt has also written
screenplays, the most notable being Bimini Run.


Alibis have crumbled
One thing is for sure: Hunt has consistently changed his story about
his whereabouts on that November day in 1963. We must go no further
than the retrial of Hunt's liable lawsuit against the Liberty Lobby
(1985) to realize that there is much that Hunt is holding back on this
matter. In this trial, attorney and JFK assassination author Mark Lane
was able to get Hunt to finally admit that he was not with his family
in Washington on November 22, 1963, watching on TV, along with the
rest of the world, the aftermath of the assassination.

Lane posed the question to Hunt that if he was with his family that
day, than why did he have to pursue the lawsuit to square himself with
his children who, Hunt contended, had to endure for years the nagging
question of whether or not their father had in some way been involved
in the assassination. Hunt's reaction to the query--a stunned, head-
snapping recoil, followed by a 30-second pause, pretty much answered
the question for the jury. His case was overturned [Plausible Denial
(1991, Thunder's Mouth Press); Mark Lane; p 283].

Admitted as part of the evidence was a sworn deposition of CIA
operative and one-time Castro love-interest, Marita Lorenz, testimony
which places Hunt--along with CIA contract agent Frank Sturgis,
supermercanary Gerry Patrick Hemming and Jack Ruby--in a Dallas motel
room, with Hunt doling out cash from his famous attache case
ostensibly for the procurement and transportation of two carloads of
firearms moved from Florida to Dallas the day before the
assassination.


What did Dorothy Know?
After reading in the spring of 1991 James Hougan's amazing Watergate
book, Secret Agenda, I began a Freedom of Information Act search on
certain FBI documents related to the death of Dorothy Hunt. I was
especially intrigued by the report by Hougan, that amongst the cash
Mrs. Hunt had in her possession, was a $100 bill with the inscription,
"Good Luck FS". I immediately suspected that FS could stand for
Howard's Watergate co-conspirator and fellow CIA affiliate, Frank
Sturgis, and began searching for other crash-material ascribed to Mrs.
Hunt from the ill-fated flight.
In Agenda, Hougan describes an engineer, Michael Stevens, proprietor
of the Chicago-based Stevens Research Laboratories, as being visited
in early May, 1972 by Watergate wireman James McCord who had come to
place orders for ten highly-sophisticated eavesdropping devices---much
more sophisticated units than the cheap, commercial-grade bugs
supposedly found in the DNC the next month in June.

Stevens claims that Dorothy Hunt was traveling to see him in Chicago
when her plane went down and that the $10,000 or more she possessed
was intended for him as an installment for his silence. Stevens says
he told the FBI that his own life had been threatened anonymously and
that Hunt's death was a homicide.

According to Hougan, the high-performance bugs were not used at the
DNC but rather in various hotel rooms setup by Hunt and McCord as
combination "dens of compromise" and psychological data-gathering
field laboratories; rooms in which high-priced call girls helped stage
episodes with political figures that were worthy of blackmail. Hougan
makes a very good case for this including a statement by landlady,
Miriam Furbershaw, who claims that she rented her basement apartment
to James McCord [Secret Agenda; James Hougan; p19] two or three years
before the Watergate scandal. McCord is known to have had considerable
bugging equipment in this apartment which appears to have been some
sort of safehouse. Mrs. Furbershaw also told the FBI that McCord had
several male visitors, including E. Howard Hunt. Intriguingly, Hunt
claims to have never met McCord until introduced to him in 1972 by G.
Gordon Liddy. There is ample evidence that Hunt and McCord knew each
other by 1963 if not earlier [op. cit.; pp17-18] having worked
extensively in the CIA's Bay of Pigs operation.

Mrs. Furbershaw says she ultimately evicted McCord because he had
"...more than one occasion on [sic] which 'young girls' visited during
the night." In a confrontation in the presence of a young woman said
to have been crying hysterically on the bed, she ordered McCord leave.
Hougan claims that McCord's blackmailing activities were illegal CIA-
sanctioned operations the purposes of which were to collect
personality information for use in personality predicting-models by
CIA psychiatrists. He further claims that McCord was engaging in
similar if not identical operations at the Watergate; that McCord
compromised the DNC "cover" operation to protect the CIA-sponsored
callgirl operations or other operations known only to McCord and or
Hunt.

Freedom of Information?
My request of the Chicago FBI office for all documents related to this
matter have only yielded the FBI claiming that there are no documents
related to that case using the index numbers I obtained from Hougan's
book. The case is on appeal with the Justice Department. Updates on
the case will be presented when they develop.
Dorothy Hunt's Death Certificate
In the process of pursuing the case, I was required to obtain a
certified copy of Dorothy Hunt's death certificate, which I did,
obtaining it from the Cook County Coroner's office. A link to a
scanned image of this document is at the end of this article. Note the
clear copy of E. Howard Hunt's signature. Also note that while Dorothy
Hunt was officially pronounced dead on December 8th, 1972, it wasn't
until November of 1973--nearly a year later--that the Coroner's
signature is dated. Also interesting on this certificate is the lack
of a Social Security number.
Dorothy Wetzel Hunt was also an employee for the CIA in the late
forties, stationed in Shanghai, China, where she met her future
husband. E Howard Hunt lives in southern Florida with his second wife
where he continues to write. One of his latest novels (1992) is Body
Count.

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/02nd_Issue/dhunt.html

Click here for a copy of Dorothy Hunt's Death Certificate
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